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This answer gives a great explanation of why the field inside a wire connected to a battery must be equal at all points: Why doesn't the electric field inside a wire in a circuit fall off with distance from the battery?

The answer uses the concept of surface charge buildup to show why the field has to be equal at all points and why it must be perpendicular to the wire.

However, there are a lot of ways a field could exist in a wire that is not perpendicular to the wire, but would not cause surface charge buildup:

For example these fields:

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could exist instead of:

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and there would still be no surface charge build up.

So my questions are:

  1. Can these "exotic" fields exist"?

  2. If not, why not?

  3. If these exotic field exist, how would current be defined in the wire? Since the electrons are not flowing perpendicular to the wire, would current be defined as the component of the movement of the electrons perpendicular to the wire or just the entire movement of the electrons?

  4. The image below is a resistor. The "lines" represent the current direction and density ("the current density streamlines") . The "gray objects" represent wires through which a voltage difference is applied. If the electric field is always parallel to the surface how can the current lines be at an angle in the first resistor?

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Please address all my questions separately. Thank you.

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  • If the electric field at the surface is not perpendicular, it will induce a current. The charges will move around until they're stationary (and the field will be perpendicular). If they don't stop moving... it's not an electrostatics problem. – chase Mar 12 '14 at 18:38
  • @Chase The point is to induce a current. The wire is connected to a battery, so a current will be induced. I never claimed that it was an electrostatics problem, its a problem about electricity and current. –  Mar 12 '14 at 19:04
  • Why the down votes? –  Mar 14 '14 at 20:40

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Remember that all electric fields are ultimately created by electric charge. If you wanted to create those exotic field configurations, you must have a non-uniform charge buildup. If you could arrange electrons on the surface and in the volume to create that field configurations, they would quickly spread themselves throughout the conductor by their own electrostatic repulsion to create the standard uniform electric field depicted in textbooks.

Also note that the "field configurations" that you have drawn are somewhat ambiguous depictions of a vector field that is defined at each point in space. Textbooks draw straight arrows like the one you drew for the correct configurations to mean that every point inside the conductor has the same uniform electric field. In your three exotic examples, it's unclear how you define the field where you don't have arrows or where the arrows overlap.

To answer your fourth question about the wire in the resistor, the electric field is always perpendicular to the surface of a conductor. If you did have a component of the electric field parallel to the surface, that would cause charge to flow into a different configuration to cancel that parallel component. The lines do appear to be at an angle to the wire in figure (a), but if you were to zoom in on the actual field configuration (not an illustration from an artist), you would see that the field is indeed perpendicular to the surface of the conductor.

Paul
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  • For question number 4, you said that the field is perpendicular to the surface, and if I zoomed in enough I would see that. If the field is perpendicular to the wire shouldn't the two images look identical? Also I don't get how zooming in into a curve makes it look straight.
  • –  Mar 15 '14 at 17:12
  • I still don't understand why the exotic fields don't exist. You said if the surface charge were to distribute itself to form the exotic fields, the electrostatic forces would repel each other. Why? Why wouldn't the electrons be held in place by the field of the battery? Essentially what I'm asking is if the electrons don't repel themselves when they form a distribution to create a non-exotic field why would they repel themselves when they create an exotic field?
  • –  Mar 15 '14 at 17:17
  • The two figures in Fig. 26-8 have different configurations for the wires at the ends of the resistor. In (b), the flat ends of the wire conveniently allow for straight field lines from end to end. In (a), they have to shoot out perpendicular from the wire and then turn sideways to go down the length of the resistor. Different boundary conditions lead to different solutions. – Paul Mar 16 '14 at 16:40
  • The electrons are repelling themselves when they form the standard, uniform configuration, but the uniform configuration (in the absence of any external field besides the battery) is the lowest energy state. Think of the example of three charges tied to a ring. They always repel each other, and they quickly arrange themselves so they are equally spaced from each other. A similar thing happens in a conductor. In a neutral conductor, the positive ions of the metal also attract electrons that are piled up in another part of the metal. – Paul Mar 16 '14 at 16:47
  • And how can zoom into a curve make it look straight? Take the surface of the ocean from a satellite: it is a spherical arc. Now, get closer, go on a boat. Do you see the curvature of the surface of the sea? Not unless you look at objects very far away. – Davidmh Mar 18 '14 at 13:33
  • That's true that curved lines look straight when you zoom in, but I meant that the angle between the field line and the conductor should be 90 degrees if you were to zoom in on an accurate depiction. Think of it as hair that always shoots out of the skin perpendicular to the surface and then quickly bends in one direction. From a distance, it looks as if they hair is coming out of the skin at an angle. This is just an analogy; I'm not trying to say anything about actual hair and skin. – Paul Mar 18 '14 at 21:03