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I consider a very large non homogeneous cloud of dust in isolation. No external gravitational interactions. It is initially completely still and start collapsing under the its own gravity.

Can the separate gravitational collapse of denser subparts, interacting with the rest of the cloud, induce spinning motion in some of these subparts?

To avoid consideration of limit conditions, the cloud may be considered infinite.

I am interested in an answer primarily in Newtonian mechanics. But if relativity can change the answer, that is interesting too, as a complement. The same goes for quantum mechanics (though I doubt it is compatible with my stillness hypothesis). BUT, my primary interest is pure Newtonian mechanics.

I did some research on the site, and this question has not been asked or answered previously with the explicit precondition of initial stillness of everything, i.e. lack of any relative motion between any two parts of any size.

My prime motivation for asking it is that all questions regarding motion and (angular) momentum seems to be answered somewhat tautogically by: there is this motion because there is that motion, exchanging this for that here and there.

Of course. collapse does create motion. So the question is really about spinning motion and orbital motion.

My own belief, though I do not have the math to prove it formally, is that lack of homogeneity is enough to cause the emergence of angular momentum in equal opposite amount in different parts of the cloud, so that the total angular momentum remains null.

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  • Collapse induces turbulence. Turbulence contains vortices. Vortices contain angular momentum. Possible duplicate of http://physics.stackexchange.com/q/146857/ – ProfRob Nov 17 '14 at 20:57
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    If you are to close my question as already answered, would you be so kind as to point to the specific answer that is answering it, that also satisfies the preconditions given here. (Newtonian mechanics, initial stillness, non homogeneity). – babou Nov 18 '14 at 13:21
  • I believe that http://physics.stackexchange.com/a/146885/26969 in particular answers your question almost exactly. – Floris Nov 18 '14 at 14:45
  • @Floris But the author of that answer assumes the initial existence of turbulence. Regarding the reference he gives, he write in his answer here "as far as I know, they have never simulated a cloud with no turbulence". – babou Nov 18 '14 at 15:05
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    To have this considered for reopening, edit your question to reference the other question Floris pointed out (and any others that might seem at first glance to be duplicates), and explain explicitly what you're asking that is not covered by those other questions. (It's not about what is in the other answers so much as it is about what is in this question that isn't in those questions.) – David Z Nov 18 '14 at 18:06

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Since the early 2000s, Matthew Bate and collaborators have been producing smoothed particle hydrodynamic (SPH) simulations of collapsing clouds. The clouds have an initial uniform density, no net angular momentum, but a turbulent velocity field.

These clouds begin from rest and collapse under their own gravity to form hundreds of stars including many with spinning accretion discs and many binary systems of all shapes and sizes.

See for example http://www.astro.ex.ac.uk/people/mbate/Cluster/index.html

Turbulence begets vortices and vortices generally produce angular momentum.

So the question boils down to, if you hadn't imposed the turbulent velocity field to begin with, would a turbulent velocity field develop in a collapsing cloud? I believe the answer is yes; certainly numerical simulations would end up with turbulence if only because of numerical noise. Turbulence cannot be deterministically treated with Newtonian mechanics. To quote the Wikipedia page on turbulence, "Although it is possible to find some particular solutions of the Navier-Stokes equations governing fluid motion, all such solutions are unstable to finite perturbations at large Reynolds numbers. Sensitive dependence on the initial and boundary conditions makes fluid flow irregular both in time and in space so that a statistical description is needed." Where do these perturabations come from? Well if your cloud is asymmetric to begin with then there will clearly be interacting flows with different densities and velocities. Even if you started with an utterly uniform, symmetric cloud, quantum and statistical mechanics would ensure that the necessary perturbations were there.

Bate (2009) shows that the details of the imposed turbulence spectrum does not greatly influence the final outcome in terms of mass function and binary properties of stars and brown dwarfs produced in the simulation. Unfortunately, as far as I know, they have never simulated a cloud with no turbulence because such things do not exist in nature.

I fear this is a "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" kind of question, because the required initial conditions will always be spoiled by quantum fluctuations at a minimum.

EDIT: I have managed to find a couple of fairly early SPH papers which deal with the collapse of a cloud that has a spectrum of Gaussian density perturbations but no imposed velocity fields. i.e. They start with asymmetric, inhomogeneous densities, but from rest. The simulation do not have a high enough resolution to follow things all the way down to binary systems and disks, but you can see from this sample picture below of the time evolution, that the gas is not collapsing along radially symmetric flow lines and therefore very complex structure arises which must have concentrations and "knots" of angular momentum, even though the initial cloud possessed none. It isn't really even turbulence that produces the complexity, just the gravitational collapse of an inhomogeneous structure.

Klessen et al. 1998, ApJ, 501, L205

Klessen & Burkert 2000, ApJS, 128, 287

TIme evolution of a collapsing inhomogeneous cloud from Klessen et al. (1998, ApJ, 501, L205)

That an asymmetric distribution of mass starting from rest will eventually produce subsytems with angular momentum has actually been known for a long time. I also found a paper by Szebehely & Peters 1967 called "Complete Solution of a General Problem for Three Bodies". In this, the initial setup is 3 masses at rest in a "Pythagorean triangle" - a right angles triangle with sizes 3,4,5 and masses in the ratio 3:4:5. The resulting evolution of this system leads to "In the final configuration two of the three participating bodies form a permanent binary, while the third body is ejected to infinity". i.e. a binary system with angular momentum is created from a system with zero initial angular momentum.

See also http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1995MNRAS.273..751V ; http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1991ARA%26A..29....9V

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  • The problems of Angels on a pin is that nothing is defined. My question may not be realistic, but it is formally well defined. And I do not know that physicists, or other scientists, analyze only realistic hypotheses. I only want to understand whether evolution of such a cloud may have interesting components that are due to Newtonian gravitational collapse alone. Of course, there may, must be other factors. But I am interested in this one. Essentially: can the cloud become turbulent from simple gravitational collapse, when initially non homogeneous. – babou Nov 18 '14 at 14:51
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    @babnou I think I have made my final contribution here. It definitely is an "Angels on the head..." question, because the answer is of no practical significance to any problem. However, I have dug out two papers that follow the collapse of spatially inhomogeneous clouds from rest. There is then also the many papers you can find on three-body problems. Initial asymmetric distributions, started from rest, produce binary systems (with angular momentum). – ProfRob Nov 18 '14 at 23:42
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In this scenario, the dust in over-dense regions will fall on radial trajectories to the gravitational centre of their over-density. Assuming density inhomogeneities are continuous (meaning no abrupt change in density), we can always model this in a symmetric way local to each over-density. This means that in the frame of reference of the centre of gravity of the over-density, there will be no net gain of momentum from this in-falling dust. Then, each of these over-dense regions will fall on radial trajectories to the common centre of mass of the system (which doesn't exist if the cloud is infinite). For an infinite cloud, the over-dense regions will progressively fall together for larger and larger wavelengths of the density perturbations. But since we cannot include external gravitational interaction (such as the expansion or collapse of the universe), since there is no initial momentum (let alone angular momentum) of any of the dust particles, at every scale there is locally no net gain in momentum. Every centre of collapse gains no net momentum (again, if the density perturbations are not discontinuous). This also means there is no gain of angular momentum. All trajectories are radial trajectories. Angular momentum must be conserved locally and globally in this scenario.

There would be coordinate systems where you could attribute an angular velocity to some dust, but that would be akin to watching a ball bounce up and down and saying it has an angular velocity in a coordinate system centered on yourself.

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