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My goal here is not to discuss dark matter in general. I know there are many other observational clues that hint us towards Dark matter. My goal is simply to understand this argument here a little better.

One of the arguments for Dark matter are the observed rotational velocities of stars in the outer part of galaxies.

If we assume that most of the galaxies mass lies inside, we can neglect the outside mass and get $$ \frac{mv²}{r}=G\frac{mM(<r)}{r^2} , $$

where $M(<r)$ denotes the mass inside the radius $r$ (This is done for example in Perkins book). This yields

$$ v \propto \frac{1}{\sqrt{r}}, $$

which isn't observed in experiments (see for example here).

Nevertheless most Galaxies are flat discs with a spherical hub in the middle and therefore maybe we can assume in the outside region for the mass density $\rho \propto \frac{1}{r}$, which seems reasonable because the mass density of a galaxy should get thinner in the outer regions.

Then we have for the mass inside radius $r$

$$ M(<r) = \int_0^r \rho(r') dA = \int_0^r \frac{C}{r'} r' dr' d\phi = 2 C \pi r $$

and therefore using Newtonian mechanics

$$ \frac{mv²}{r}=G\frac{mM(<r)}{r^2}= G\frac{m2 C \pi r}{r^2} $$ $$ \rightarrow v \propto const $$

This is exactly what is observed in experiments.

Obviously somewhere this argument must be flawed and my best bet would be $\rho \neq \frac{C}{r}$. The standard approach seems to be to assume something of the form $\rho \propto e^{-C R} $. What experimental data shows that $\rho \neq \frac{C}{r}$ and therefore that we need Dark matter to explain other phenomena.

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    the mass of a galaxy's visible matter is usually calculated on a mass-to-light ratio, which increases as one goes outward from the center. Basically, we assume that a given amount of mass produces a given amount of light. We incorporate the fact that the close packing of the core probably decreases the amount of light that reaches us and so allow that ratio to increase farther out where it's less packed. Then, knowing the amount of light given off throughout a galaxy, we fit the expected mass appropriately – Jim Feb 26 '15 at 22:23
  • This does not seem like a strong argument to me. Just a first idea: Very big stars produce a different amount of light than small stars and the relationship is by no means linear: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93luminosity_relation. Maybe there is, because of the conditions there, a higher density of small stars on the inside and more big stars on the outside. Couldn't effects like this distort the mass distribution, we get from the brightness distribution dramatically? – jak Feb 26 '15 at 22:39
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    We don't know how big the stars really are on average that produce the light on the inner or outer regions and therefore I find it hard to understand how we can make precise arguments about the mass there. – jak Feb 26 '15 at 22:39
  • I'm not an astronomer. I don't know the full details of it. I'm just regurgitating the basic ideas I've been told – Jim Feb 26 '15 at 22:42

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Well there are problems in your question and analysis. First off, there have been a few SE questions recently about this "Keplerian" treatment of dark matter. The shell theorem, that the gravitational field is the equivalent of that due to the mass inside radius $r$, and that exterior masses can be ignored is only true for spherically symmetric mass distributions or cases where most of the mass is centrally concentrated inside radius $r$. Any book that fails to point this out is making a serious omission, probably in the interests of simplifying the argument. Real work in this area does not make that assumption (e.g. Sofue 2011).

Even adopting the shell theorem, it does not imply $ v \propto r^{-1/2}$, it implies $v \propto (M(R)/r)^{1/2}$.

The correct argument for dark matter is that if we assume that the visible matter and gas traces the mass and has a certain mass-to-light ratio, then we find that (i) the rotation speeds of stars and gas are too high and that (ii) one would expect the velocities to drop as $r^{-1/2}$ at large radii, whereas they appear to actually be flat or even increasing.

The latter point works because the visible matter implies that there is hardly any mass at large radii, and so the Keplerian approximation is valid there.

Now, as for your model. If $\rho \propto r^{-1}$ in shells, this would imply that annuli with a given thickness $\Delta r$ contain similar quantities of mass! $\Delta M = 2\pi r z\rho\,\Delta r$ (where $z$ is a thickness for the disk). So, rather than having a galaxy whose azimuthally integrated luminosity decreased with distance from the centre, your Galaxy, without dark matter, would have to have constant integrated luminosity, as a function of radius as you move away from the centre (or to satisfy my critics below, if you are observing the Galaxy face on, the surface brightness of light would fall as just $r^{-1}$). And, of course without defining some sort of cut-off radius, the total mass of your Galaxy would soon become large! However, if you assume that most of this matter is dark then indeed you might be able to explain the rotation curve of the Galaxy using such a density law!

Below I show an example (using surface brightness) for M31 (taken from Corteau et al. (2012)), using various luminosity indicators, on which I have marked a $\rho \propto r^{-1}$ dependence. A $r^{-1}$ does work reasonably in the inner part of the disk (it is actually a bit shallower than that because of the bulge), but at some point $r> 10$ kpc, the luminous matter just runs out and the observed intensity distribution becomes steeper than $r^{-1}$.

M31 azimuthall averaged intensity

In fact the most commonly used prescription for dark matter is the Navarro, Frenk & White dark matter profile, $$ \rho(r) = \frac{\rho_0 R_s}{r(1 + r/R_s)^2}, $$ where $R_s$ is a length scale (of order 15 kpc for the Milky Way and M31). When $r< R_s$, this does scale as $1/r$ and does explain the flat rotation curve!

i.e. Your analysis that a $\rho \propto 1/r$ relationship leads to a flat rotation curve is roughly correct. However, the fact that intensity in our Galaxy (and others) falls off more steeply than $r^{-1}$ in the outer parts of the Galaxy leads to the conclusion that the matter is ... dark! There is an additional problem with the normalisation as well. Even in the inner parts of the disk, the mass implied by the luminous matter is insufficient (by factors of a few) to explain the rotation speeds.

So now to answer the last part of your question - how do we know that $\rho$ (of luminous matter) does not fall as $1/r$ in the disk. This is just a question of counting up stars and estimating the contribution of gas from HI surveys (and dust, though this is negligible). There is no single source of this information (though here is an example I pick at random that uses SDSS number counts), it is agglomerated from many different surveys at different wavelengths and built up to give a coherent picture. The underlying assumptions are that we understand the types and mixture of stars that make up the overall stellar populations. Our understanding could be incorrect, but the way in which it would need to be incorrect to explain rotation curves is to have lots (and I mean orders of magnitude) more dim stars that contribute mass but no light at large radii (i.e. dark matter, though baryonic, which doesn't help you with other pieces of evidence for dark matter).

For example, the luminosity of the M31 data shown above drops off steeper than $r^{-1}$. If you were to extrapolate a $r^{-1}$ relationship, then to ensure that the mass did go as $r^{-1}$ you would need the mass to luminosity ratio to increase by some factors of ten. To do this would require orders of magnitude more faint stars to bright stars than are observed in the local disk.

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  • I guess the $\rho \propto r^{-1}$ comes from taking the mass in the annulus that is the intersection of the galactic disk with a spherical shell and distributing that matter over the shell. That is, if the shell theorem did apply, it would be the right density model for a uniform density disk. –  Feb 26 '15 at 22:43
  • @ChrisWhite Yes this was the idea. – jak Feb 26 '15 at 22:49
  • @RobJeffries Could you quote some "Real work" that "does not make that assumption"? I've been searching for quite a while for some papers and wasn't able to find something satisfying. I always thought the argument with $M(<r)$ comes from the fact that the mass in the outside regions is so small it can be neglected. Nevertheless the rotational speeds are quite different in areas as close as $3$ kPc, which is quite close to the center. Is there experimental data that shows that there is so much luminous matter in the hub that everything else can be neglected? – jak Feb 26 '15 at 22:49
  • @JakobH Try this and references therein http://xxx.lanl.gov/pdf/0801.1232v5.pdf As I've pointed out to you, once you can safely assume that you are outside most of the visible mass, the Keplerian assumption is ok, as the dark matter halo is usually assumed to be spherically symmetric. – ProfRob Feb 26 '15 at 23:08
  • @JakobH Here is another one http://www.ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~sofue/htdocs/2012DarkHalo/Sofue2012.pdf This models the surface mass density of the disk as exponentially decaying on a scalelength of 3kpc -i.e. much steeper than 1/r. – ProfRob Feb 26 '15 at 23:35
  • The assumption that a constant mass $\Delta M$ concentrated within different annuli of constant thickness $\Delta r$ leaves a constant intensity (luminosity is not important here!!!) is wrong! If one has an "inner" annuli and an "outer" annuli with same thickness this leaves the matter of the outer annuli more distributed, because the enclosed volume is greater due to the bigger radius. Therefore there is less matter per unit volume = less stars per unit volume = less luminosity per unit volume = less intensity at that point in space. @JakobH – image357 Mar 22 '15 at 02:16
  • @MarcelKopke I thought that went without saying. One normally measures integrated luminosity as a fn of radius. I'll edit to be clearer. – ProfRob Mar 22 '15 at 07:38
  • As far as I understand, you were trying to construct an arguement about the galaxy not getting darker for that mass profile, if one moves outwards. You can do this by intensity or integrated luminosity, sure. For the later you have to compare regions with equal volume which your annuli arguement doesn't hold up to. – image357 Mar 22 '15 at 11:23
  • @MarcelKöpke You are quibbling. My answer was already clear enough that I was talking about luminosity integrated azimuthally. If you want to express it as magnitudes per square arcsec - fine - it goes down with the density. – ProfRob Mar 22 '15 at 12:00
  • My next point is that you assume a linear correlation between mass profile and intensity profile. This is however not true as for instance the dust to star ratio may increase, leaving a much steeper drop in intensity than in mass profile allowing to explain rotation curves on a different basis. I have not overlooked enough experimental data and its analysis but the usual intensity fit $\rightarrow$ mass distribution seems to be very model driven approach and therefore questionable. – image357 Mar 22 '15 at 13:35
  • Do you know of an analysis paper that counts stars, weights their position with mass derived by spectral class and incorporates dust distributions of the galaxy? I would really like to look into this a bit more – image357 Mar 22 '15 at 13:36
  • @MarcelKöpke It's not my field of research. As I say, the mass to light ratio would have to change by a factor of ten or so. Then this dark baryonic mass density has to have no component that we can see in the local disk; must exist well outside the locus of any luminous matter; must fill the space between galaxies in clusters; yet must not have been present during big-bang nucleosynthesis. Dust is a completely negligible fraction of the Galaxy's mass and easily detected. This is a Q+A site, not one for debating private hypotheses. – ProfRob Mar 22 '15 at 16:34
  • Well I just question some statements. Before, I should have said interstellar medium (ISM) and not dust. Sorry if that made any misconception but I thought it would be clear from context. This ISM is not negligible as it contributes about 15% of the visible mass of the milky way (source). There are some high altitude clouds that have surely not been considered, yet. – image357 Mar 22 '15 at 17:53
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    @MarcelKöpke Indeed, the gas is not negligible - though 15% illustrates that it is unimportant when factors of $>10$ need to be found. Even cold gas is "visible". If you have new questions - ask them; as questions. Every answer about dark matter, just ends up with people challenging stuff that was sorted out decades ago. – ProfRob Mar 22 '15 at 18:18