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EDIT : You're about to read the first iteration of my question which is flawed. Please go to the end to see an illustration of what I meant to say. The phenomenon I was talking about is called emission spectrum.


I remember watching an experiment in a documentary, The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene I believe. We put an atom, charge it with energy and then filter its energy through a prism.

The result was a distinct pattern of colour, darkness, colour, darkness, colour, darkness.

I believe that the problem was that each colour was emitted by an electron that were stimulated, yet we ended with more colours than electrons in this atom.

Can anyone point me to the scientific title of this experiment? Other experiments and reading material (non-scientist oriented) would be much appreciated.

EDIT : Here's a link to the episode of the documentary in question. Experiment begins at 08:52.


It was actually a heated gas that emitted a spectrum following this pattern. The distinction is due to electrons changing orbits when heated. Emission spectrum

The result is a distinct pattern of colours with interruption of darkness in between.

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  • There are no such experiments because electrons don't have a wave-particle duality. That was a very old concept that doesn't do anything for physical understanding of what is really going on. It's also based on shoddy logic. If something has some properties of A and some properties of B, then it's not an AB type of thing, but it's a completely independent C type. Today we call this a "quantum field" and it is neither describing particles, nor is it describing waves. It's an object that is continuous but only capable of quantized exchanges of its physical properties. – CuriousOne Jul 15 '16 at 18:54
  • @CuriousOne, I believe that de Broglie theorized electrons have a wave-particle duality and this was proven. I'm sorry, I just don't think that what you're saying makes sense (though, of course, I have plenty of room for error). – auden Jul 15 '16 at 19:23
  • @heather: de Broglie was confused, both about the phenomenology and the explanation. Mott was a lot less confused, he was just ignored. By the time de Broglie got his Nobel, folks like Dirac had long moved on to exploring relativistic theory, which is the only correct framework for quantum mechanics, and with that the early ideas about what quanta are die very quickly. – CuriousOne Jul 15 '16 at 19:29
  • @CuriousOne, here is a section of the Wikipedia page on matter waves that is experimental confimation for de Broglie's theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave#Experimental_confirmation – auden Jul 15 '16 at 19:33
  • Wikipedia presents the history of science. You can find similar articles about the aether. That doesn't mean the aether is a good concept, only that people entertained it at one point. The correct ontology for quantum mechanics today are quantum fields, which don't cary any of this historical ballast. Unlike de Broglie's explanation, quantum field theory can explain pretty much everything you see around yourself, maybe with exception of gravity, at this point (that's most likely because gravity is not even a quantum phenomenon). – CuriousOne Jul 15 '16 at 19:39
  • @CuriousOne, sure, Wikipedia is the history of science, but you sure won't find any experimental evidence for aether (just against aether) on Wikipedia. There is experimental evidence for wave-particle duality of electrons. – auden Jul 15 '16 at 19:52
  • @heather: You won't find any experimental confirmation for corpuscles, either. You will only ever be able to make quantum mechanical measurements in which system A loses a certain amount of energy (angular momentum etc.) while system B gains that amount. That there are some tiny balls flying around that carry this energy is a pretty common but logically unsupported human conclusion. So is the idea that these small balls have some wave properties. A single quantum process never has any wave properties. Only the statistical average of many of these processes can look like a classical wave. – CuriousOne Jul 15 '16 at 19:55
  • There are other websites that support wave-particle duality and are perhaps more respectable than Wikipedia. I don't really want to argue with you (because I have a feeling you're not going to give in, and so far I don't really think the evidence you've provided is conclusive, and finally, I just don't want to be rude, so to speak, and turn this into a back and forth). Maybe you could provide some websites that support your view that I could read? I'd love to learn more about it (again, I just don't want this to turn into anything nasty, and we probably shouldn't be commenting back and forth). – auden Jul 15 '16 at 20:24
  • @heather: Just because millions of people repeat the same thing, doesn't mean that it's true. I want you to think about that for a while and then go back to the photoelectric effect and think very carefully what we can learn from that and, more importantly, what we can't. – CuriousOne Jul 15 '16 at 20:36
  • @CuriousOne, sure, and I just want to make sure: I don't want to offend you. I'm very interested in what you are saying. I will do as you've suggested. – auden Jul 15 '16 at 20:51
  • @heather: You aren't offending me in the least. I know how hard it is to let go of old ideas. All I am saying is that science is no different in this regard from other fields of life. Old teachings die with old teachers. In case of QM it will take several more generations of university level teachers to get rid of the ballast and to move on with a clean slate version of physics. That's just how the world turns. :-) – CuriousOne Jul 15 '16 at 20:56

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Double-Slit Experiment

I believe you are describing the double slit experiment with electrons (as opposed to with light). The pattern you are describing is called an interference pattern (much like two pebbles producing ripples in a pond and there are parts where the ripples cancel out). Below is a diagram of the double slit experiment.

double slit experiment

One way of showing the interference pattern is shown below:

interference pattern

To summarize how this experiment works, an electron gun is used to fire electrons one by one at a screen with two slits in it. Behind the double slit screen is another screen where the electrons build up. The importance of this experiment is that the electrons build up in an interference pattern (as shown below, where a is the beginning and e is the end) which proves that electrons have a wave-particle duality like light, as de Broglie predicted. This phenomenon has been shown to occur with photons, electrons, atoms, and some molecules (such as buckyballs, though, referencing the comments, I'm not sure about water).

electron pattern

There are two other important things to note about the double slit experiment. The first is the idea behind quantum mechanics - the probability wave. In quantum mechanics (unlike in Newtonian mechanics) nothing can be predicted exactly. A baseball will probably end up at home plate, but there's always a chance, however minuscule, that it'll end up over in the Andromeda Galaxy. The probabilities of where things will be are represented by what is called a probability wave. You can think of a probability wave like the one in the picture below (which isn't the probability wave of the baseball).

probability wave

The basic idea is that where the probability wave is high, the particle represented is likely to end up; where it is low, it is not likely to end up. The reason I'm bringing up probability waves is because they are in the experiment. The electron's probability wave goes through both slits at once (interestingly, if you close one slit, the results are not at all what you'd expect with Newtonian mechanics, but it makes sense in the context of the electron going through both slits at once) and produces the interference pattern.

The second is an interesting thought experiment. The idea of this thought experiment is that if particle detectors are placed behind each slit to show how many photons/electrons/particles come through, the interference pattern will disappear, because of the fact that particles cannot be observed as both wave and particle at once, resulting in the wavefunction collapsing and the particle settling on a single slit. This can be somewhat represented by the diagram below.

wave collapsing detectors

The one difference is that the screen would have two slits with detectors A and B in front of those two slits; otherwise, the basic idea is the same.

Here is a website that the double slit experiment further.

Emission Spectrum

The emission spectrum of a chemical element or chemical compound is the spectrum of frequencies of electromagnetic radiation (e.g., visible light, microwaves, radio waves, gamma waves, etc) emitted due to an atom or molecule making a transition from a higher energy state to a lower energy state. The photon energy of the emitted photon (the photon is the carrier of the electromagnetic force) is equal to the energy difference between the two energy levels. Below shows the electromagnetic spectrum:

EM spectrum

In the context of the video, when one of the electrons makes a quantum leap to one of the lower energy levels closer to the nucleus, it emits electromagnetic radiation at certain wavelengths. This emitted electromagnetic radiation is its emission spectrum.

The experiment is done by heating gases up until they glow - agitating the electrons in the process - and then observing the light they gave off through a prism, which produces very defined lines - the emission spectrum. This could not be explained with the Newtonian picture of the atom (which, honestly, wasn't really defined - definitive proof of atoms was only provided by Einstein during his annus mirabilis in 1905, with his paper on Brownian Motion) but could be explained with the Bohr picture of the atom. Though Bohr's picture turned out to be partially incorrect (never, ever picture an atom as a miniature solar system, or physicists will pull their hair out) one idea remained the same, and was further emphasized by the Pauli Exclusion Principle. This idea was that electrons couldn't be in just any spot - they had to be in certain shells, like layers of an onion. They could never, ever be in the spots between the shells.

This was kind of important because one, electrons couldn't spiral into the nucleus (always good to keep the fundamental structure of matter from collapsing) and two, it explained this experiment. When electrons do a little quantum leap between the energy levels, they either have to gain energy (to move away from the nucleus, toward the outer energy levels) or lose energy (to move towards the nucleus and the inner energy levels). Now, because of the Law of Conservation of Energy, the energy lost cannot just vanish - it has to go somewhere. Enter the emission spectrum. The electrons emit electromagnetic radiation, the energy of that radiation depending on how much energy the electrons are losing, and the wavelength of that radiation depending on the atom - which is where the science of spectroscopy comes from. Below is a diagram of an atom's shells and how electrons emit or absorb energy when moving between these.

atom shells

Emission spectrums vary from atom to atom. Below shows the emission spectrums of a few elements.

emission spectrum elements

Hope this helps!

auden
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  • Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. – David Z Jul 16 '16 at 11:16
  • Crikey. Those 'baseball probability densities' soooo resemble the PD for a particle in a circular well (2D) with zero potential! Can 'heather' provide a source for that image? – Gert Jul 16 '16 at 13:43
  • Heather, in your second sketch for what the circle segments behind the first slit and the double slits are stand? What they present? – HolgerFiedler Jul 17 '16 at 13:03
  • @HolgerFiedler, in the second picture, the circle at the far left represents the electron gun. The waves represent the interference pattern that is produced. – auden Jul 17 '16 at 13:04
  • @Gert, if you are talking about the third image (I think that's what you're talking about) it is from this website. – auden Jul 17 '16 at 13:06
  • @HolgerFiedler, the third image overall (where there is a, b, c, d, and e)? – auden Jul 17 '16 at 13:09
  • @HolgerFiedler, a is the beginning of the experiment, and e is the end. The dots are representing the electrons as they hit the second screen. They end up creating an interference pattern. I hope this answers your question, but your comment is a little unclear. – auden Jul 17 '16 at 13:12
  • The second sketch - the half circles behind the slits are representing the interference pattern created by the electrons' probability waves. – auden Jul 17 '16 at 13:17
  • Ok let it be the electrons probability waves (or maxima of probability?). Are they in motion to the screen? – HolgerFiedler Jul 17 '16 at 13:20
  • They are moving from the electron gun to the final screen, yes. – auden Jul 17 '16 at 13:20
  • Now my question: Why the intensity distribution on the observation screen does stand still? – HolgerFiedler Jul 17 '16 at 13:21
  • @HolgerFiedler, I believe that you are now referencing the third picture...the intensity distribution does not "stand still" but as more electrons are added, the interference pattern is emphasized. – auden Jul 17 '16 at 13:23
  • Let as stay with the second sketch. The intensity distribution pattern appears after some time. That is common sense. | But as you say rhat the waves behind th slits are moving towards the screen, why the pattern on the screen does stand still? To illustrate it see this picture: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Two_sources_interference.gif – HolgerFiedler Jul 17 '16 at 13:55
  • @heather: no, I was referring to the fourth image. Below the Andromeda Galaxy paragraph. Thanks. – Gert Jul 17 '16 at 13:59
  • @Gert, I see, my apologies. I searched Google Images and found that image; the website it found it on was this website. It's near the bottom of the page. It is the last thing before Section 13.4, the Atom. – auden Jul 17 '16 at 14:03
  • @Gert, it should be noted that that probability wave is not the probability wave of a baseball; I was including it to show a way to imagine a probability wave. It could be exactly what you thought it looked like - I'll edit my answer to explain so. I just realized it read like that picture was the probability wave for the baseball. =) Sorry about that. – auden Jul 17 '16 at 14:17
  • @heather: the probability density waves for a macroscopic object are indeed too small to really exist. But the image interests me because it is so similar to wave functions I calculated for a particle in a circular 2D box with zero potential. http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=65532&page=19#pid453422 – Gert Jul 17 '16 at 14:26
  • @Gert, that is interesting. – auden Jul 17 '16 at 14:27