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I have read in some books and articles that the Dirac-Bergmann procedure to deal with constraints in phase space does not care about holonomic and Non-holonomic constraints, but I've been unable to find a single example. So, I wanted to test that assertion by solving a simple non-holonomic system.

Consider a particle ($m=1$) subject to the non-holonomic constraint $$\phi_{1}=\dot{y}-z\dot{x}=0.\tag{1}$$ The Lagrangian of the system is the standard one $$L=\frac{1}{2}\left(\dot{x}^{2}+\dot{y}^{2}+\dot{z}^{2}\right)-V(\mathbf{r}),\tag{2}$$ and it is non-singular as the momentum can be found to be

$$p_{i}=\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot{x}_{i}}=\dot{x}_{i}.$$

In phase-space, the dynamic is given by the Hamiltonian

$$H=\frac{1}{2}\left(p_{x}^{2}+p_{z}^{2}+p_{z}^{2}\right)+V(\mathbf{r})$$ constrained to obey $\phi_{1}=\dot{p_{y}}-z\dot{p_{z}}=0$. The time evolution is obtained using the Dirac bracket

$$\dot{F}=\left\{ F,H\right\} _{D}=\left\{ F,H\right\} -\sum_{i,j}\left\{ F,\phi_{i}\right\} \left(M_{ij}\right)^{-1}\left\{ \phi_{j},H\right\}, $$ where the Matrix of constraint has the following entries

$$M_{ij}=\left\{ \phi_{i},\phi_{j}\right\}.$$

Now, with only one constraint, the matrix only has one element, and since $\left\{ \phi_{1},\phi_{1}\right\} =0,$ the matrix is non-invertible and there is no Dirac Bracket.

I tried to remedy this in the usual way of the Dirac-Bergmann theory by introducing a second constraint

$$\phi_{2}=\left\{ \phi_{1},H\right\} \approx0$$ But the equations of motion that come from the Dirac bracket do not coincide with the ones from Lagrangian mechanics (analytical mechanics of discrete systems by Rosenberg, p 257).

So, given the above Hamiltonian and the constraint, how can the correct equation of motion be found?

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  • Read in which books and articles? Which pages? – Qmechanic Nov 23 '22 at 04:46
  • For example, Peter Mann's "Lagrangian and Hamiltonian dynamics" p. 271. It reads "The Dirac bracket can still be constructed for non-holonomic Lagrangian constraints, since the phase space does not depend on the ˙velocity coordinate" – AndresB Nov 23 '22 at 14:07

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TL;DR: First of all, a constraint in the Dirac-Bergmann analysis of the Hamiltonian formulation cannot depend on velocities/dots. In contrast, OP's constraint (1) depends on velocities/dots.

Longer explanation: Well, there are at least 2 different Lagrangian formulations of non-holonomic constraints, cf. Ref. 1 and this Phys.SE post:

  1. One using a stationary action principle (SAP) but incompatible with d'Alembert's principle (DAP).

  2. One using Chetaev's equations, compatible with DAP but incompatible with SAP.

Since we need SAP to perform a (possible singular) Legendre transform to the Hamiltonian formulation, we will assume option 1.

Let us perform the first steps in the Dirac-Bergmann analysis of OP's example$^1$ (and leave it to the reader to complete it):

$$\begin{align} L~=~&L_0+\lambda\phi_1, \cr L_0 ~=~& \frac{1}{2}(\dot{x}^2+\dot{y}^2+\dot{z}^2)-V(x,y,z), \cr 0~\approx~&\phi_1~=~\dot{y}-z\dot{x}. \end{align} \tag{A}$$ The Lagrangian momenta are $$\begin{align}p_x~=~&\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}}~=~\dot{x}-\lambda z, \cr p_y~=~&\dot{y}+\lambda, \cr p_z~=~&\dot{z}, \cr p_{\lambda}~=~&0. \end{align} \tag{B}$$ There is 1 primary constraint $$0~\approx~\phi_2~=~p_{\lambda}. \tag{C}$$ The original Hamiltonian becomes $$\begin{align} H_0~=~&p_x\dot{x}+p_y\dot{y}+p_z\dot{z}+p_{\lambda}\dot{\lambda}-L\cr ~=~&\frac{1}{2}((p_x+\lambda z)^2+(p_y-\lambda)^2+p_z^2)+V.\end{align} \tag{D}$$ Note that $\lambda$ is not a Lagrange multiplier in the Hamiltonian formulation. There is a secondary constraint $$0~\approx~\phi_3~=~\{H_0,\phi_2\}~=~z(p_x+\lambda z)+\lambda-p_y. \tag{E} $$ There is a tertiary constraint $$0~\approx~\phi_4~=~\{\phi_3,H_0\}~=~(p_x+2\lambda z)p_z -z\frac{\partial V}{\partial x}+\frac{\partial V}{\partial y}. \tag{F} $$ Here we stopped calculating, but it seems that the Hamiltonian formulation of OP's example becomes overconstrained.

References:

  1. P. Mann, Lagrangian and Hamiltonian dynamics, 2018; eqs. (8.2.4) & (8.2.4).

  2. R.M. Rosenberg, Analytical Dynamics of Discrete Systems, 1977; eq. (15.4.5).

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$^1$ Ref. 2 uses option 2.

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