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Friedmann equation states

$$ H^2 \equiv \left( \frac{\dot{a}}{a} \right) = \frac{8\pi G \rho}{3} - \frac{k}{a^2} $$

which describes the evolution of the expansion of the universe. Writing $\Omega(t) = \frac{8 \pi G}{3 H^2(t)}\rho(t)$ we get

$$ |\Omega(t) - 1| = \frac{|k|}{a^2H^2}.$$

Which in a radiation or matter dominated universe gives

$$ |\Omega(t) - 1| \propto t^n, \quad n\geq 2/3.$$

Thus, if the universe is flat now, it was a lot flatter right after the big bang. This is called the flatness problem, but I am having a hard time understanding why it is a problem.

My way of thinking is this: The topology of a closed (open) universe and a flat universe are very different. If the universe is flat ($k=0$) then the spatial part of universe has the topology of $\mathbb{R}^3$, but the topology of a closed universe is a 3-sphere $S^3$. Now, since we have good reasons to think that our universe is pretty flat, why is that not an argument for the universe being exactly flat? As in exactly $k=0$. If $k$ was shown to be exactly $k=10^{-100}$, I understand that we would have a fine-tuning problem. But since the topology of the entire universe would be profoundly different going from being a non-compact $\mathbb{R}^3$ ($k=0$) to being a compact 3-sphere $S^3$ ($k=10^{-100}$), I can easily accept that $k=0$ is a possibility.

Why do physicist think that $k=0$ is unrealistic? Where am I wrong? Have I misunderstood something? Please correct me if I am wrong about something.

Qmechanic
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  • I have already read that Wikipedia and I can not see that it addresses my concern. Are you sure you understand my concern? Can you specifically point to where in the article? – Johannes Apr 18 '20 at 09:01
  • If you’re willing to assume that $k=0$ exactly, then there is no problem. Just like there is no horizon problem if you’re willing to assume that the primordial plasma was uniform across cosmic distances by initial condition. – bapowell Apr 20 '20 at 00:20
  • No physical value can be infinite. Infinity is not a number, it does not exist among numbers, so it cannot exist in the physical reality described by numbers. The fact that the Friedmann solution produces $\Bbb R^3$ invalidates this solution in the first place as producing a non-physical result of an “infinite universe”. The Friedmann geometry is also invalidated experimentally by the Hubble tension, axis of evil, etc. Search the web for crisis in cosmology. After a hundred years of wasted efforts it’s finally time to let Friedmann RIP. – safesphere Apr 26 '20 at 15:54
  • Hi, $k = 0$ is a set of measure zero in the space of all possible $k$’s and this means that from observations (due to measurement errors) we cannot state that the universe is spatially flat. – Pipe Mar 25 '21 at 09:52

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The flatness problem is akin to asking: why does the universe have these initial conditions?

This is a question that, by definition, cannot be answered in the framework of physics, because every physical theory requires initial conditions as an additional input: a physical theory cannot provide an explanation for the values of its initial conditions.

Initial conditions can be explained in the framework or another, more general theory. For example, even if Friedmann's cosmology cannot explain why $k$ has a certain value, we can introduce inflation and say that we actually started from another value $k'$, and the ln inflation flattened the universe, bringing us to the measured value of $k\sim 0$. But of course, this is just shifting the problem backwards, now we have to explain $k'$!

So, why do people say that explaining $k$ is a problem, but nobody is worried about explaining $k'$? The simple and sad truth is that, since we know very little about inflation, $k'$ cannot be presently measured in any way, and therefore there is no measured value that needs explaining.

Ok, but why is there a flatness problem and not, for instance a "fine structure constant problem"? Why does $k$ merit such a discussion? The reason is more phylosophical, than physical (as I said at the beginning, the value of initial conditions cannot be explaned withing physics). When a theory requires adimensional initial parameters, physicists like when those parameters assume values reasonably close to 1. In these cases, no questions asked. But if the number is very large, or very small, such as in the case of $k$, then someone will try to find an explanation.

This is partly motivated by historical reasons, because we never had a physical theory with very small, adimensional parameters that were not later explained in some more general theory. But, to be fair, we do not have many unexplained adimensional parameters at all, in modern physics.

Another reason finds roots in the belief of many scientists that nature must have a fundamental, intrinsic matemathical beauty. And that the simplest and most beautiful number that some variable can assume is, of course 1. Not 0, which looks like there was some magical cancellation coincidence, and not $10^{-100}$, which is even uglier than 0.

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Hi Johannes: As I understand your question, you have assumed a flat universe. There is no flatness problem with a flat universe. The problem is that if the universe is not quite flat now, it would have been a lot less flat without inflation. Inflation is not included in the Friedmann equations, so I am not sure why you are discussing them. Also, your first equation has an error. The $ \frac {\dot a} {a}$ should be squared. Also you you have omitted the cosmological constant $\Lambda$, which is needed to model the universe which is based on the most current research results to be most like the universe we probably have.

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Good question.

The matter and energy in the universe curves space-time, the problem is that the matter density appears to have a value very close to the critical value

$\rho_{crit}=\frac{3H(z)^2}{8\pi G}$

that would make the universe flat,

$H(z)$ is the Hubble parameter and $G$ is the gravitational constant

It’s nice to think that the universe would be flat, but there was no theoretical reason to know why it is so flat (it could have a curvature).

It’s similar in Newtonian gravity to wondering why the density of the universe is such that there is this coincidence - that the radius $R$ of the observable universe ($\frac{c}{H}$) is close to

$R=\frac{GM}{c^2}\tag{1}$.

It's fine if it's true, but physicists don't like unexplained co-incidences i.e. why is it true? That's why the flatness problem is a problem.

In the traditional expanding universe any departure from the critical density would increase with time, so measurements nowadays that show it’s close to critical density, means it was very very close in the past.

Inflation was meant to solve this problem, but some would argue that it’s an ad-hoc theory with no explanation of why it began or ended and is mainly introduced to solve the flatness problem.

Another idea here, Cosmology - an expansion of all length scales is that the expansion happens to all length scales

The total energy due to each mass $m$ is

$mc^2-\frac{GMm}{R^2}$

and it changes with time as

$(mc^2-\frac{GMm}{R^2})e^{2Ht}$

If we require conservation of energy as the universe expands

$mc^2-\frac{GMm}{R^2}=0$

so

$G=\frac{Rc^2}{M}\tag{2}$

Explaining the coincidence above and the flatness problem.

The interpretation of this is that the rate of expansion is constant, and gravity is caused by the expansion in order to conserve energy as the universe expands.

The flatness problem is important as most cosmologists think that it should be explained by a correct cosmological model. Maybe the current concordance model is flawed - it can only explain the flatness problem by introducing inflation and another ad-hoc and unexplained quantity, dark energy.

Perhaps the flatness problem will guide us to a better cosmological model.

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I had this question when I was first learning inflation theory. Followings are what I have found.

From 1902.03951

... claim that there is no problem if the spatial curvature is exactly vanishing. Although correct in principle, this idea is, however, hardly reconcilable with the existence of curvature fluctuations on Hubble scales.

I'd like to understand it as the preference for a close Universe found in observation. The caveat is here that if one only use Planck data, a closed Universe is preferred at $\sim 3 \sigma$. The often cited "spatial flatness is consistent with observations" is meant to be the Planck plus lensing and BAO data. Source: $\S7.3$ in Planck2018 and 1908.09139 (and references therein).

Also just from theoretical side, I consider $k=0$ to be a really special value. Consider the full FLRW metric $$ ds^2 = dt^2 - a^2(t) \left[ \frac{dr^2}{1-kr^2}+ r^2d\theta^2 + r^2 \sin^2\theta d\phi^2 \right] $$ The radial coordinate has no "physical meaning" and one can rescale them whenever one wants: $r\rightarrow \lambda r$ and $a \rightarrow \frac{a}{\lambda}$. Then $k$ would be rescaled also and one can see that only the sign of $k$ (or whether it is exactly zero) matters.

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